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T O P I C R E V I E WLF DXGood night, this is my first post around, I've been following this place for a while, and it's pretty good to finally post here, probably one of the best places to learn about astrology. Don't know if this is the right place to post this, let me know if this is not.I've fallen in love with a close friend, an aries-taurus cusp woman, me being a Scorpio guy. Her - Apr 19 1987, 07 AMMe - Nov 14 1991, 15 PM (I'm the younger)We were getting closer, but unfortunately thanks to not fully read the signs, a deep friendship more than a romance and to the scorpio jealousy and possesiveness and expressing my feelings toward her in a very intense and nervous way, She pulled away, and since then(a couple of months) we've been distant, with a few encounters, the last one a few weeks when we enjoyed an afternoon playing basketball with a friend and his girlfriend.I'm still being distant because I'm kind of a spiritual healing, self-examination of my past and how it has affected in my relationships with women. And when I healed enough it's when I'm going to start to talk to her again, to make amends. I don't want to rush things, but maybe this silent treatment it's doing the opposite effect, but it's for the best.Composite Sun Conjunction Mercury 1.90Sun Square Pluto 4.23Sun Quincunx Chiron 3.28 Moon Quincunx Mars 2.21Moon Quincunx Jupiter 5.32Moon Square Ascendant 7.06Moon Conjunction Midheaven 5.83 Mercury Conjunction Sun 1.90Mercury Square Pluto 2.33Mercury Quincunx Chiron 1.38 Venus Trine Mars 1.44Venus Opposition Jupiter 4.55Venus Conjunction Uranus 2.87Venus Conjunction Vertex 2.33 Mars Quincunx Moon 2.21Mars Trine Venus 1.44Mars Sextile Jupiter 3.11Mars Trine Uranus 4.31Mars Trine Vertex 0.89Mars Trine Ascendant 4.84Mars Quincunx Midheaven 3.62 Jupiter Quincunx Moon 5.32Jupiter Opposition Venus 4.55Jupiter Sextile Mars 3.11Jupiter Trine True Node 0.20Jupiter Opposition Vertex 2.22Jupiter Sextile Ascendant 1.74Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven 0.51 Saturn Conjunction Neptune 0.11Saturn Sextile Pluto 3.41Saturn Opposition Chiron 2.46 Uranus Conjunction Venus 2.87Uranus Trine Mars 4.31 Neptune Conjunction Saturn 0.11Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.30Neptune Opposition Chiron 2.35 Pluto Square Sun 4.23Pluto Square Mercury 2.33Pluto Sextile Saturn 3.41Pluto Sextile Neptune 3.30Pluto Trine Chiron 0.95Pluto Quincunx P. of Fortune 1.48 Chiron Quincunx Sun 3.28Chiron Quincunx Mercury 1.38Chiron Opposition Saturn 2.46Chiron Opposition Neptune 2.35Chiron Trine Pluto 0.95 True Node Trine Jupiter 0.20True Node Sextile Vertex 2.43True Node Sextile Ascendant 1.53 P. of Fortune Quincunx Pluto 1.48 Vertex Conjunction Venus 2.33Vertex Trine Mars 0.89Vertex Opposition Jupiter 2.22Vertex Sextile True Node 2.43 Ascendant Square Moon 7.06Ascendant Trine Mars 4.84Ascendant Sextile Jupiter 1.74Ascendant Sextile True Node 1.53Ascendant Square Midheaven 1.22 Midheaven Conjunction Moon 5.83Midheaven Quincunx Mars 3.62Midheaven Quincunx Jupiter 0.51Midheaven Square Ascendant 1.22I'm trying to relax myself now, doing my things, and letting the river flow, and maybe in a month or two I'll start talking to her to see what happens.Hope this was posted in the right place, I'm looking foward to learn a lot in this place.CheersI've made an edit, it was not the synastry, but the composite one, in the reply i'll bring, my mistake for that.AubyanneWelcome LF DX. I'm sorry you're having a rough go. Was it your natal you posted?LF DXThank you very much. No, I've posted the images of the composite chart, or that's what I think xD. Should I post the natal charts of both, or with the composite will be enough?CheersAubyanneOh! I gotcha. The 'synastry' threw me off.Yeah, even a loose cSUN-MOON conjunction can feel very bonded. As well as a 1º VENUS-MARS trine. AubyanneYeah, go ahead and post the synastry wheels.olgatheoWELCOME!The Venus/Uranus conj. that could create aon/off relationship , usually works best if your great friends, since it's energy is unpredictable + exciting . The mercury sq. Pluto could go either way - either you will have great communication or long periods of silence , just remember it's energy...star's incline that don't compel ..why don't you call her :) LF DXSynastry (The real one) Sun Quincunx Sun 6.95Sun Trine Venus 4.22Sun Quincunx Chiron 4.14Sun Sextile P. of Fortune 1.69 Moon Sextile Sun 4.68Moon Sextile Saturn 3.32Moon Sextile Uranus 2.40Moon Trine Chiron 6.42 Mercury Trine Mercury 2.80Mercury Opposition Mars 4.50Mercury Trine Jupiter 2.24Mercury Opposition Chiron 4.08Mercury Quincunx Lilith 2.77Mercury Trine True Node 2.28Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 3.95Mercury Sextile Midheaven 1.67 Venus Quincunx Sun 7.00Venus Square Moon 3.49Venus Opposition Mercury 5.02Venus Trine Mars 3.32Venus Opposition Jupiter 5.59Venus Square Neptune 2.12Venus Quincunx Ascendant 3.87 Mars Quincunx Chiron 2.15Mars Sextile P. of Fortune 0.30 Jupiter Trine Moon 2.09Jupiter Quincunx Mercury 0.56Jupiter Square Mars 2.26Jupiter Quincunx Jupiter 0.01Jupiter Trine Neptune 3.46Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2.58Jupiter Quincunx True Node 0.03Jupiter Trine Ascendant 1.71Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven 0.58 Saturn Square Sun 2.68Saturn Sextile Venus 5.42 Uranus Conjunction Moon 1.79Uranus Square Mercury 0.26Uranus Quincunx Mars 1.95Uranus Square Jupiter 0.31Uranus Conjunction Neptune 3.16Uranus Sextile Pluto 2.27Uranus Square True Node 0.27Uranus Trine Ascendant 1.40 Neptune Conjunction Moon 5.30Neptune Square Mercury 3.77Neptune Quincunx Mars 5.47Neptune Square Jupiter 3.20Neptune Sextile Pluto 5.79Neptune Quincunx Chiron 3.12Neptune Opposition Lilith 1.81Neptune Conjunction Vertex 0.20Neptune Trine Ascendant 4.92 Pluto Trine Venus 5.77Pluto Quincunx Chiron 2.59Pluto Sextile P. of Fortune 0.14 Chiron Quincunx Moon 0.21Chiron Trine Mercury 1.33Chiron Sextile Mars 0.37Chiron Trine Jupiter 1.90Chiron Quincunx Neptune 1.58Chiron Square Pluto 0.69Chiron Trine True Node 1.85Chiron Square Ascendant 0.18Chiron Opposition Midheaven 2.46 True Node Conjunction Moon 1.72True Node Square Mercury 0.19True Node Quincunx Mars 1.89True Node Square Jupiter 0.38True Node Sextile Pluto 2.21True Node Square True Node 0.34True Node Trine Ascendant 1.34 P. of Fortune Square Mercury 1.08P. of Fortune Square Jupiter 0.51P. of Fortune Square True Node 0.55P. of Fortune Quincunx Midheaven 0.06 Vertex Trine Mercury 1.60Vertex Trine Jupiter 1.04Vertex Trine True Node 1.08Vertex Quincunx Ascendant 2.75Vertex Sextile Midheaven 0.47 Ascendant Square Moon 0.34Ascendant Conjunction Mercury 1.20Ascendant Sextile Mars 0.50Ascendant Conjunction Jupiter 1.77Ascendant Square Neptune 1.71Ascendant Quincunx Pluto 0.82Ascendant Conjunction True Node 1.73Ascendant Sextile Midheaven 2.33 Midheaven Conjunction Moon 0.50Midheaven Square Mercury 1.04Midheaven Quincunx Mars 0.66Midheaven Square Jupiter 1.61Midheaven Conjunction Neptune 1.87Midheaven Sextile Pluto 0.98Midheaven Square True Node 1.56Midheaven Trine Ascendant 0.11olgatheo, I'll call her pretty soon, I just need to relax myself a bit, to make sure i'm at peace to move freely, to not control anything anymore and to just simply enjoy the company of a friend, even if I still have strong feelings for her, but definitely I'll make a call soon , because I believe there will be more good times coming soon. CheersolgatheoSaturn sq. Sun- delays everything one of the most imp. aspects. Time/ex/money/career prob./family could be a problem you encounter. Good news = long term , very binding.Awesome Venus aspects, your Venus Trine Pluto will always regenerate the relationship even when you think its over. Venus /Neptune sq= this one is hard, trust is a factor and complete honesty.Moon is well aspected so you make each other feel safe+ its a comfortable or healing being around each other.Mercury/Uranus/Neptune = this could cause stress between you it like whatever you say to each other even a small joke could hurt. Try to play nice Uranus, will create sparks while communicating.Neptune, some form of illusion or deceit, again total trust is needed by both. This is all from personal experience so I hope it helps! DeepFreezeVenus/Uranus BTW is a love at first site connection that if supported by other things is no big deal in the long run. It provides excitement for long term in that sense but otherwise it goes as quick as it came. We have Venus/uranus conjunct (I'm Uranus) and Venus/uranus trine. But also many other things. Even a square like is nothing to worry about if other things offset it. We have mars square pluto. No issues. No violence even though that's supposed to be like the big daddy indicator. LF DX quote:Originally posted by olgatheo:Saturn sq. Sun- delays everything one of the most imp. aspects. Time/ex/money/career prob./family could be a problem you encounter. Good news = long term , very binding.Awesome Venus aspects, your Venus Trine Pluto will always regenerate the relationship even when you think its over. Venus /Neptune sq= this one is hard, trust is a factor and complete honesty.Moon is well aspected so you make each other feel safe+ its a comfortable or healing being around each other.Mercury/Uranus/Neptune = this could cause stress between you it like whatever you say to each other even a small joke could hurt. Try to play nice Uranus, will create sparks while communicating.Neptune, some form of illusion or deceit, again total trust is needed by both. This is all from personal experience so I hope it helps! It does, thank you very much.The Saturn Sq. Sun happened a lot, we could never hang out a lot because she was always busy, work and many other things.The venus sq. neptune is a key factor, because of her never having a guess that I was feeling for her, even with all of the signals I did to her.The moon is quite good because we have good times of sharing a lot of personal secrets and stories and we both felt good because of the trust we had back then, with the uranus, there was sparks when we both speak.The Neptune thing was true, lot of illusions, lot of dissappointment and deceit, for both of us, and now I see it clearly, with a bit of time and going slow I might be able to not expect a lot anymore and just enjoy it.The Mercury/Uranus/Neptune things, yeah, I was very careful with how to approach her as my feelings grew, because I was very excited and anxious, because let's say I've never been so close with a woman in my life as I was with her, even if it was just a close friendship, that closeness and intimacy was very new to me, and it just made a deep effect.And of course Venus Trine Pluto, It's slowly doing it's effect I guess. A few weeks as I said before, thanks to a good friend of us and his girfriend, we play together in a basketball game, and we won, and she told me she used a gift I gave her, a blues record, to play it for her newborn niece to make her feel calm, and that did a pleasant sensation.I haven't spoke with her since still, because I don't feel myself ready for having conversations and to get closer yet, I'm still very emotional, and I want to have the enough healing and control to let things flow naturally. I really love her, and nothing will make me happier to hang around and enjoy good times with her again, as a friend, maybe when I'm a more evolved scorpio I might try again, but who knows, the universe does some magic sometimes.CheersolgatheoGlad I could help, I am sure you will be fine, how about 8/11 Eclipse again , could be great energy.LF DXThat could be an interesting day, but let's see what happens, I'm still learning a lot of things these days, on relationships, it takes time these things.So, I tried now to see from her point of viewand this came outSun Quincunx Sun 6.95Sun Sextile Moon 4.68Sun Quincunx Venus 7.00Sun Square Saturn 2.68 Moon Square Venus 3.49Moon Trine Jupiter 2.09Moon Conjunction Uranus 1.79Moon Conjunction Neptune 5.30Moon Quincunx Chiron 0.21Moon Conjunction True Node 1.72Moon Square Ascendant 0.34Moon Conjunction Midheaven 0.50 Mercury Trine Mercury 2.80Mercury Opposition Venus 5.02Mercury Quincunx Jupiter 0.56Mercury Square Uranus 0.26Mercury Square Neptune 3.77Mercury Trine Chiron 1.33Mercury Square True Node 0.19Mercury Square P. of Fortune 1.08Mercury Trine Vertex 1.60Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 1.20Mercury Square Midheaven 1.04 Venus Trine Sun 4.22Venus Sextile Saturn 5.42Venus Trine Pluto 5.77 Mars Opposition Mercury 4.50Mars Trine Venus 3.32Mars Square Jupiter 2.26Mars Quincunx Uranus 1.95Mars Quincunx Neptune 5.47Mars Sextile Chiron 0.37Mars Quincunx True Node 1.89Mars Sextile Ascendant 0.50Mars Quincunx Midheaven 0.66 Jupiter Trine Mercury 2.24Jupiter Opposition Venus 5.59Jupiter Quincunx Jupiter 0.01Jupiter Square Uranus 0.31Jupiter Square Neptune 3.20Jupiter Trine Chiron 1.90Jupiter Square True Node 0.38Jupiter Square P. of Fortune 0.51Jupiter Trine Vertex 1.04Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 1.77Jupiter Square Midheaven 1.61 Saturn Sextile Moon 3.32 Uranus Sextile Moon 2.40 Neptune Square Venus 2.12Neptune Trine Jupiter 3.46Neptune Conjunction Uranus 3.16Neptune Quincunx Chiron 1.58Neptune Square Ascendant 1.71Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 1.87 Pluto Sextile Jupiter 2.58Pluto Sextile Uranus 2.27Pluto Sextile Neptune 5.79Pluto Square Chiron 0.69Pluto Sextile True Node 2.21Pluto Quincunx Ascendant 0.82Pluto Sextile Midheaven 0.98 Chiron Quincunx Sun 4.14Chiron Trine Moon 6.42Chiron Opposition Mercury 4.08Chiron Quincunx Mars 2.15Chiron Quincunx Neptune 3.12Chiron Quincunx Pluto 2.59 Lilith Quincunx Mercury 2.77Lilith Opposition Neptune 1.81 True Node Trine Mercury 2.28True Node Quincunx Jupiter 0.03True Node Square Uranus 0.27True Node Trine Chiron 1.85True Node Square True Node 0.34True Node Square P. of Fortune 0.55True Node Trine Vertex 1.08True Node Conjunction Ascendant 1.73True Node Square Midheaven 1.56 P. of Fortune Sextile Sun 1.69P. of Fortune Sextile Mars 0.30P. of Fortune Sextile Pluto 0.14 Vertex Conjunction Neptune 0.20 Ascendant Quincunx Mercury 3.95Ascendant Quincunx Venus 3.87Ascendant Trine Jupiter 1.71Ascendant Trine Uranus 1.40Ascendant Trine Neptune 4.92Ascendant Square Chiron 0.18Ascendant Trine True Node 1.34Ascendant Quincunx Vertex 2.75Ascendant Trine Midheaven 0.11 Midheaven Sextile Mercury 1.67Midheaven Quincunx Jupiter 0.58Midheaven Opposition Chiron 2.46Midheaven Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.06Midheaven Sextile Vertex 0.47Midheaven Sextile Ascendant 2.33This is kinda weird doing this, but seeing that Sun Sextile Moon gave me a lot of interest, but beyond that, that doesn't mean that it's meant to be (Maybe it's not), but, as far as I'm learning, this is a kind of a karmic relationthip , with great lacks of communication and a lot of sensitivity, but there's a real bond that can last, with maturity and truth.Curiosity and its things... Too much time I guess.CheersLF DXOh, I almost forgot, the natals by astro EditedAubyanneEh. VENUS trine PLUTO 6º separating?LF DXThere, I have edited the natals because I did it wrong by linking directly from astro xD.And here, the composite and Synastry from astro, which is I guess the best astrology page around.Composite Synastry I've been learning a lot from seeing a lot of pages, understanding astrology by pieces is quite interesting.Cheers.KohoHey friendI agree with the Saturn sq Sun delay.My personal experiences have been mostly with Saturn sq Venus and that has very often caused delays or flat out blockages whenever in Synastry or Composite.I also saw one of you had Saturn sq Venus natal.To have such a limiting square on affection expression isn't easy but I'll let other more knowledgeable people comment on this. LF DXIt's on her, she's quite difficult when it was on speaking on feelings, she told me that she never opens what's deep inside on her because no one will understand or appreciate it, that was one of the things that made me felt deeper. But unfortunately, I probably put too much pressure on her, and that's the Saturn(me) Square sun(her) effect I guess.And also we have Venus Square Neptune, one of the hardest ones. But we also have very good ones Like My sun trines her venus, her venus sextiles my saturn, and trines my pluto(a very good one), her saturn sextiles my moon, there's a lot of good aspect, and I know deep inside that we can reconcile, but we need the distance to heal, or that's what I feel.Although I have dreamt yesterday that after some texting on the past and good times she blocked me from facebook and twitter, and that made me feel that the healing distance is slowly turning into a drifting distance, so maybe I should really try to talk soon before we really start to drift apart.Cheers.LF DXI'm giving a bump because got some good news and some bad ones, lot of things happened this weekend and I'm very dazed, and I need to vent all of this.The good one: We've reconciled, she went to my birthday party, and she spend the night at my place(nothing physical happened, and it wasn't necessary) because there were no buses at midnight. We talked a lot again of goals, dreams, family and life, and it felt pretty amazing the experience of enjoying what made me fell for her, but as I'm writing this now, it's a tight bond, but I'm starting to see that this only can be a deep friendship, and that's alright, even if she said she cared a lot, and she was going to give me portrait of me playing music. It was great though.The bad one: the real reason of my jealousy and possessiveness was that not so long ago, I've found her and a very close friend of mine watching movies in a very compromising way, and I felt betrayed by him by keeping secrets and lying straight to my face, and these past months they have been together doing things, and I've kept myself away from it, because I felt it wasn't worth it to let the anger lead on me to unecessary things. And the cream of the crop is in the party, they kissed in front of me, and he still lied onto me saying it was the first time. Blatant ******** . The thing that really ****** me off, is that he's being very dishonest, as he's flirting with a lot of girls, and he told me so, and I feel that he's just stringing her along, or they just are hanging around like most of the people these days, and I'm just a very jealous and ****** off scorpio that feels very decieved.I've threaten him to kick his ass if he doesn't treat her right or not being honest of what he wants, we were all drunk and that that night. It was the best birthday party I've had anyway, because I made a jam session with some of my friends, lots of food and beer, and of course, making amends, and seeing the awful truth, even the bad was good.I'm not really sure of what to do at this point, got what I've wanted, with a price, got to deal with this with a lot of maturity, but let's say this experience kind of push me to my limits, and sometimes I feel I'm gonna explode soon, but with the training I'm making in the gym, and making music kept me grounded. Let's hope I can keep it well with all of this, moving foward with my artTL R : Make amends with my friend, but she's in love of a "close" friend who's playing with her, and I'm feeling like I'm messing into something very complicated.I'll keep you posted soon where this goes, cause I'll do something about it, somehowCheers.PD : And I'm giving to you a song that I wrote to her not so long ago, it's a song for my album, Hope you like it.https://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/moonlight-track-mix-2Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by LF DX:And I'm giving to you a song that I wrote to her not so long ago, it's a song for my album, Hope you like it.https://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/moonlight-track-mix-2Hey, LF DX. I'm not entirely sure what you're going for here. It feels like a syncopated Doors-inspired tune. Are you performing with a band in a small studio? It may be the mixing quality, or your members are just very, very loose.It feels like a kind of tribute to classic rock, which I LOVE -- especially, as that's a generation before you. Keep that up! But do me a favour and STUDY the artists: Floyd, Doors, Zeppelin -- you might like the Moody Blues, too. This feels like one who's imitating from the outside. I'd love it if you'd learn the actual feel of it, and then give your own spin.Your tempo improves 75% into the song. You've got to grab me in the first 5 seconds, or I'm moving on. Again, I can't tell if it's the mix or the members' time -- but it's messy and off-putting.Your vocals are clearly reminiscent of Morrison, and that's great: the bit of talking, the timbre, overall style. Strong choice. But I'd love to see this song come together. So, I'm following you. (6degreesofscorpio.)Feel free to contact me here, or there, regarding its development, if you'd like my assistance. I'm a sound engineer, musician, and I scout talent. Likely, I can help you get closer to where you want to go. As to the situation you're in ... ahhh, l'amour. It's the sweet pain. EnnelineAubyanne, could you pls. look at my thread at personal reading. I'd really appreciate your opinion LF DXWell Aubyanne, It's a One man band for this one (I play the bass, guitar, harmonica, and some drums and keyboards), I did it as a way to test some stuff I'm learning at school (studying sound engineering), with only a 5 track and a USB condenser (not a very rich man), and yeah, it's kind of a tribute in a sense, and a naive expression of what it was at the moment(The lovey dovey thing). And this was the first year that I'm making songs, tooked me a lot of years, but it feels great to release yourself through music, it's the most pleasant experience I've ever felt, and I'm gonna learn a lot more in the future, cause I want to leave my country and play music, it's hard these days, but I'll work to reach that goal with all my strengthAnd I know, most of the musicians around here (Paraguay, South America) copy the sound of classic bands instead of giving a personal spin, there are very few who can do it at a more profund level, and let's say it's my generation who's changing slowly the old rotten artistic ways that this country possess, we're pretty far away from the first world, but, only trying and following your muse can bring us to a better level.And yeah, this is the sweetest pain I've ever been.Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by Enneline:Aubyanne, could you pls. look at my thread at personal reading. I'd really appreciate your opinion I'll gladly take a look. In Personal Readings, you said?Aubyanne quote:Originally posted by LF DX:Well Aubyanne, It's a One man band for this one (I play the bass, guitar, harmonica, and some drums and keyboards), I did it as a way to test some stuff I'm learning at school (studying sound engineering), with only a 5 track and a USB condenser (not a very rich man), and yeah, it's kind of a tribute in a sense, and a naive expression of what it was at the moment(The lovey dovey thing). And this was the first year that I'm making songs, tooked me a lot of years, but it feels great to release yourself through music, it's the most pleasant experience I've ever felt, and I'm gonna learn a lot more in the future, cause I want to leave my country and play music, it's hard these days, but I'll work to reach that goal with all my strengthAnd I know, most of the musicians around here (Paraguay, South America) copy the sound of classic bands instead of giving a personal spin, there are very few who can do it at a more profund level, and let's say it's my generation who's changing slowly the old rotten artistic ways that this country possess, we're pretty far away from the first world, but, only trying and following your muse can bring us to a better level.And yeah, this is the sweetest pain I've ever been.No worries. I'm sure you'll get there. Enneline quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: I'll gladly take a look. In Personal Readings, you said?Si And of course I would be happy to exchange LF DXWell, This probably could be the final bump around this, I kept strong as I could, playing gigs, trying to go new places, keeping myself close to my friends, going to the gym, having good grades at school, but the pain, longings and the disillusionment that I have are quite big, all that because both of my close inner circles broke apart and that leave me depressed, but I kept myself strong as I could.The final part of this story it's coming, and could be good, as could be not that good.Since then I kept myself away from her as I could, cutting contact almost completely, except one day when I was rambling around downtown and I found her with her dad, whom I met at her birthday and we became acquaintances very fast, spoke with him like 15 min as they were waiting for their bus to come as me and her barely spoke to each other, but kept a strict politeness to not show the mutual disconfort, I haven't seen her since...But then earlier this month, she finally made her promise to gave me portraits of me (She's a professional photographer) as a gift for my birthday, but delievered those to a mutual friend, took me two weeks to take the presents as I was very hurt still. In a letter attached to one picture, She thanked me for my friendship to her and that stuff, since then I tried to contact her to have a final closure but I'm very emotionally blocked to try to do it, I just Can't do it.And finally this christmas eve she texted me saying she still deeply care for me, missed me and our group, and wanted to start our friendship from scratch, So I gave her a half-hearted response, saying more or less the same...The truth is, I don't know where to go, cause this experience really burned me out, but the bond and affection are still there, and I never ever really gave someone a second chance, cause I never have this kind of experience before, going to wild extremes, the illusions, deceit, and the on and off thing, and I usually dissapear for good when this kind of things happen, deep inside I want to do this, but to do it will be quite hard. That conversation is important, And I'll try to make it somehowTL; DR - Tried to get away from her, but she feels regretful of her actions and wants to come back into my life and start things from scratch, but I have a certain distrust to where this could go.PD: Have decided to show a more complete synastry with some of the asteroids (Don't believe in them much honestly, but maybe they do some powerful stuff, I don't know) Like Dejanira, Eros, Karma, Isis, Osiris and Valentine I never went this further into astrology with someone, or something in my life, but certain things just wreck your mind.Cheers.
I've fallen in love with a close friend, an aries-taurus cusp woman, me being a Scorpio guy.
Her - Apr 19 1987, 07 AMMe - Nov 14 1991, 15 PM (I'm the younger)
We were getting closer, but unfortunately thanks to not fully read the signs, a deep friendship more than a romance and to the scorpio jealousy and possesiveness and expressing my feelings toward her in a very intense and nervous way, She pulled away, and since then(a couple of months) we've been distant, with a few encounters, the last one a few weeks when we enjoyed an afternoon playing basketball with a friend and his girlfriend.
I'm still being distant because I'm kind of a spiritual healing, self-examination of my past and how it has affected in my relationships with women. And when I healed enough it's when I'm going to start to talk to her again, to make amends. I don't want to rush things, but maybe this silent treatment it's doing the opposite effect, but it's for the best.
Composite
Sun Conjunction Mercury 1.90Sun Square Pluto 4.23Sun Quincunx Chiron 3.28 Moon Quincunx Mars 2.21Moon Quincunx Jupiter 5.32Moon Square Ascendant 7.06Moon Conjunction Midheaven 5.83 Mercury Conjunction Sun 1.90Mercury Square Pluto 2.33Mercury Quincunx Chiron 1.38 Venus Trine Mars 1.44Venus Opposition Jupiter 4.55Venus Conjunction Uranus 2.87Venus Conjunction Vertex 2.33 Mars Quincunx Moon 2.21Mars Trine Venus 1.44Mars Sextile Jupiter 3.11Mars Trine Uranus 4.31Mars Trine Vertex 0.89Mars Trine Ascendant 4.84Mars Quincunx Midheaven 3.62 Jupiter Quincunx Moon 5.32Jupiter Opposition Venus 4.55Jupiter Sextile Mars 3.11Jupiter Trine True Node 0.20Jupiter Opposition Vertex 2.22Jupiter Sextile Ascendant 1.74Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven 0.51 Saturn Conjunction Neptune 0.11Saturn Sextile Pluto 3.41Saturn Opposition Chiron 2.46 Uranus Conjunction Venus 2.87Uranus Trine Mars 4.31 Neptune Conjunction Saturn 0.11Neptune Sextile Pluto 3.30Neptune Opposition Chiron 2.35 Pluto Square Sun 4.23Pluto Square Mercury 2.33Pluto Sextile Saturn 3.41Pluto Sextile Neptune 3.30Pluto Trine Chiron 0.95Pluto Quincunx P. of Fortune 1.48 Chiron Quincunx Sun 3.28Chiron Quincunx Mercury 1.38Chiron Opposition Saturn 2.46Chiron Opposition Neptune 2.35Chiron Trine Pluto 0.95 True Node Trine Jupiter 0.20True Node Sextile Vertex 2.43True Node Sextile Ascendant 1.53 P. of Fortune Quincunx Pluto 1.48 Vertex Conjunction Venus 2.33Vertex Trine Mars 0.89Vertex Opposition Jupiter 2.22Vertex Sextile True Node 2.43 Ascendant Square Moon 7.06Ascendant Trine Mars 4.84Ascendant Sextile Jupiter 1.74Ascendant Sextile True Node 1.53Ascendant Square Midheaven 1.22 Midheaven Conjunction Moon 5.83Midheaven Quincunx Mars 3.62Midheaven Quincunx Jupiter 0.51Midheaven Square Ascendant 1.22
I'm trying to relax myself now, doing my things, and letting the river flow, and maybe in a month or two I'll start talking to her to see what happens.
Hope this was posted in the right place, I'm looking foward to learn a lot in this place.
Cheers
I've made an edit, it was not the synastry, but the composite one, in the reply i'll bring, my mistake for that.
Should I post the natal charts of both, or with the composite will be enough?
Yeah, even a loose cSUN-MOON conjunction can feel very bonded. As well as a 1º VENUS-MARS trine.
The mercury sq. Pluto could go either way - either you will have great communication or long periods of silence , just remember it's energy...star's incline that don't compel ..why don't you call her :)
Sun Quincunx Sun 6.95Sun Trine Venus 4.22Sun Quincunx Chiron 4.14Sun Sextile P. of Fortune 1.69 Moon Sextile Sun 4.68Moon Sextile Saturn 3.32Moon Sextile Uranus 2.40Moon Trine Chiron 6.42 Mercury Trine Mercury 2.80Mercury Opposition Mars 4.50Mercury Trine Jupiter 2.24Mercury Opposition Chiron 4.08Mercury Quincunx Lilith 2.77Mercury Trine True Node 2.28Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 3.95Mercury Sextile Midheaven 1.67 Venus Quincunx Sun 7.00Venus Square Moon 3.49Venus Opposition Mercury 5.02Venus Trine Mars 3.32Venus Opposition Jupiter 5.59Venus Square Neptune 2.12Venus Quincunx Ascendant 3.87 Mars Quincunx Chiron 2.15Mars Sextile P. of Fortune 0.30 Jupiter Trine Moon 2.09Jupiter Quincunx Mercury 0.56Jupiter Square Mars 2.26Jupiter Quincunx Jupiter 0.01Jupiter Trine Neptune 3.46Jupiter Sextile Pluto 2.58Jupiter Quincunx True Node 0.03Jupiter Trine Ascendant 1.71Jupiter Quincunx Midheaven 0.58 Saturn Square Sun 2.68Saturn Sextile Venus 5.42 Uranus Conjunction Moon 1.79Uranus Square Mercury 0.26Uranus Quincunx Mars 1.95Uranus Square Jupiter 0.31Uranus Conjunction Neptune 3.16Uranus Sextile Pluto 2.27Uranus Square True Node 0.27Uranus Trine Ascendant 1.40 Neptune Conjunction Moon 5.30Neptune Square Mercury 3.77Neptune Quincunx Mars 5.47Neptune Square Jupiter 3.20Neptune Sextile Pluto 5.79Neptune Quincunx Chiron 3.12Neptune Opposition Lilith 1.81Neptune Conjunction Vertex 0.20Neptune Trine Ascendant 4.92 Pluto Trine Venus 5.77Pluto Quincunx Chiron 2.59Pluto Sextile P. of Fortune 0.14 Chiron Quincunx Moon 0.21Chiron Trine Mercury 1.33Chiron Sextile Mars 0.37Chiron Trine Jupiter 1.90Chiron Quincunx Neptune 1.58Chiron Square Pluto 0.69Chiron Trine True Node 1.85Chiron Square Ascendant 0.18Chiron Opposition Midheaven 2.46 True Node Conjunction Moon 1.72True Node Square Mercury 0.19True Node Quincunx Mars 1.89True Node Square Jupiter 0.38True Node Sextile Pluto 2.21True Node Square True Node 0.34True Node Trine Ascendant 1.34 P. of Fortune Square Mercury 1.08P. of Fortune Square Jupiter 0.51P. of Fortune Square True Node 0.55P. of Fortune Quincunx Midheaven 0.06 Vertex Trine Mercury 1.60Vertex Trine Jupiter 1.04Vertex Trine True Node 1.08Vertex Quincunx Ascendant 2.75Vertex Sextile Midheaven 0.47 Ascendant Square Moon 0.34Ascendant Conjunction Mercury 1.20Ascendant Sextile Mars 0.50Ascendant Conjunction Jupiter 1.77Ascendant Square Neptune 1.71Ascendant Quincunx Pluto 0.82Ascendant Conjunction True Node 1.73Ascendant Sextile Midheaven 2.33 Midheaven Conjunction Moon 0.50Midheaven Square Mercury 1.04Midheaven Quincunx Mars 0.66Midheaven Square Jupiter 1.61Midheaven Conjunction Neptune 1.87Midheaven Sextile Pluto 0.98Midheaven Square True Node 1.56Midheaven Trine Ascendant 0.11
olgatheo, I'll call her pretty soon, I just need to relax myself a bit, to make sure i'm at peace to move freely, to not control anything anymore and to just simply enjoy the company of a friend, even if I still have strong feelings for her, but definitely I'll make a call soon , because I believe there will be more good times coming soon.
Awesome Venus aspects, your Venus Trine Pluto will always regenerate the relationship even when you think its over.
Venus /Neptune sq= this one is hard, trust is a factor and complete honesty.Moon is well aspected so you make each other feel safe+ its a comfortable or healing being around each other.
Mercury/Uranus/Neptune = this could cause stress between you it like whatever you say to each other even a small joke could hurt. Try to play nice Uranus, will create sparks while communicating.Neptune, some form of illusion or deceit, again total trust is needed by both.
This is all from personal experience so I hope it helps!
We have Venus/uranus conjunct (I'm Uranus) and Venus/uranus trine.
But also many other things. Even a square like is nothing to worry about if other things offset it. We have mars square pluto. No issues. No violence even though that's supposed to be like the big daddy indicator.
quote:Originally posted by olgatheo:Saturn sq. Sun- delays everything one of the most imp. aspects. Time/ex/money/career prob./family could be a problem you encounter. Good news = long term , very binding.Awesome Venus aspects, your Venus Trine Pluto will always regenerate the relationship even when you think its over. Venus /Neptune sq= this one is hard, trust is a factor and complete honesty.Moon is well aspected so you make each other feel safe+ its a comfortable or healing being around each other.Mercury/Uranus/Neptune = this could cause stress between you it like whatever you say to each other even a small joke could hurt. Try to play nice Uranus, will create sparks while communicating.Neptune, some form of illusion or deceit, again total trust is needed by both. This is all from personal experience so I hope it helps!
It does, thank you very much.
The Saturn Sq. Sun happened a lot, we could never hang out a lot because she was always busy, work and many other things.
The venus sq. neptune is a key factor, because of her never having a guess that I was feeling for her, even with all of the signals I did to her.
The moon is quite good because we have good times of sharing a lot of personal secrets and stories and we both felt good because of the trust we had back then, with the uranus, there was sparks when we both speak.
The Neptune thing was true, lot of illusions, lot of dissappointment and deceit, for both of us, and now I see it clearly, with a bit of time and going slow I might be able to not expect a lot anymore and just enjoy it.
The Mercury/Uranus/Neptune things, yeah, I was very careful with how to approach her as my feelings grew, because I was very excited and anxious, because let's say I've never been so close with a woman in my life as I was with her, even if it was just a close friendship, that closeness and intimacy was very new to me, and it just made a deep effect.
And of course Venus Trine Pluto, It's slowly doing it's effect I guess.
A few weeks as I said before, thanks to a good friend of us and his girfriend, we play together in a basketball game, and we won, and she told me she used a gift I gave her, a blues record, to play it for her newborn niece to make her feel calm, and that did a pleasant sensation.
I haven't spoke with her since still, because I don't feel myself ready for having conversations and to get closer yet, I'm still very emotional, and I want to have the enough healing and control to let things flow naturally.
I really love her, and nothing will make me happier to hang around and enjoy good times with her again, as a friend, maybe when I'm a more evolved scorpio I might try again, but who knows, the universe does some magic sometimes.
So, I tried now to see from her point of viewand this came out
Sun Quincunx Sun 6.95Sun Sextile Moon 4.68Sun Quincunx Venus 7.00Sun Square Saturn 2.68 Moon Square Venus 3.49Moon Trine Jupiter 2.09Moon Conjunction Uranus 1.79Moon Conjunction Neptune 5.30Moon Quincunx Chiron 0.21Moon Conjunction True Node 1.72Moon Square Ascendant 0.34Moon Conjunction Midheaven 0.50 Mercury Trine Mercury 2.80Mercury Opposition Venus 5.02Mercury Quincunx Jupiter 0.56Mercury Square Uranus 0.26Mercury Square Neptune 3.77Mercury Trine Chiron 1.33Mercury Square True Node 0.19Mercury Square P. of Fortune 1.08Mercury Trine Vertex 1.60Mercury Conjunction Ascendant 1.20Mercury Square Midheaven 1.04 Venus Trine Sun 4.22Venus Sextile Saturn 5.42Venus Trine Pluto 5.77 Mars Opposition Mercury 4.50Mars Trine Venus 3.32Mars Square Jupiter 2.26Mars Quincunx Uranus 1.95Mars Quincunx Neptune 5.47Mars Sextile Chiron 0.37Mars Quincunx True Node 1.89Mars Sextile Ascendant 0.50Mars Quincunx Midheaven 0.66 Jupiter Trine Mercury 2.24Jupiter Opposition Venus 5.59Jupiter Quincunx Jupiter 0.01Jupiter Square Uranus 0.31Jupiter Square Neptune 3.20Jupiter Trine Chiron 1.90Jupiter Square True Node 0.38Jupiter Square P. of Fortune 0.51Jupiter Trine Vertex 1.04Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 1.77Jupiter Square Midheaven 1.61 Saturn Sextile Moon 3.32 Uranus Sextile Moon 2.40 Neptune Square Venus 2.12Neptune Trine Jupiter 3.46Neptune Conjunction Uranus 3.16Neptune Quincunx Chiron 1.58Neptune Square Ascendant 1.71Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 1.87 Pluto Sextile Jupiter 2.58Pluto Sextile Uranus 2.27Pluto Sextile Neptune 5.79Pluto Square Chiron 0.69Pluto Sextile True Node 2.21Pluto Quincunx Ascendant 0.82Pluto Sextile Midheaven 0.98 Chiron Quincunx Sun 4.14Chiron Trine Moon 6.42Chiron Opposition Mercury 4.08Chiron Quincunx Mars 2.15Chiron Quincunx Neptune 3.12Chiron Quincunx Pluto 2.59 Lilith Quincunx Mercury 2.77Lilith Opposition Neptune 1.81 True Node Trine Mercury 2.28True Node Quincunx Jupiter 0.03True Node Square Uranus 0.27True Node Trine Chiron 1.85True Node Square True Node 0.34True Node Square P. of Fortune 0.55True Node Trine Vertex 1.08True Node Conjunction Ascendant 1.73True Node Square Midheaven 1.56 P. of Fortune Sextile Sun 1.69P. of Fortune Sextile Mars 0.30P. of Fortune Sextile Pluto 0.14 Vertex Conjunction Neptune 0.20 Ascendant Quincunx Mercury 3.95Ascendant Quincunx Venus 3.87Ascendant Trine Jupiter 1.71Ascendant Trine Uranus 1.40Ascendant Trine Neptune 4.92Ascendant Square Chiron 0.18Ascendant Trine True Node 1.34Ascendant Quincunx Vertex 2.75Ascendant Trine Midheaven 0.11 Midheaven Sextile Mercury 1.67Midheaven Quincunx Jupiter 0.58Midheaven Opposition Chiron 2.46Midheaven Quincunx P. of Fortune 0.06Midheaven Sextile Vertex 0.47Midheaven Sextile Ascendant 2.33
This is kinda weird doing this, but seeing that Sun Sextile Moon gave me a lot of interest, but beyond that, that doesn't mean that it's meant to be (Maybe it's not), but, as far as I'm learning, this is a kind of a karmic relationthip , with great lacks of communication and a lot of sensitivity, but there's a real bond that can last, with maturity and truth.
Curiosity and its things... Too much time I guess.
Edited
And here, the composite and Synastry from astro, which is I guess the best astrology page around.
Synastry
I've been learning a lot from seeing a lot of pages, understanding astrology by pieces is quite interesting.
Cheers.
I agree with the Saturn sq Sun delay.
My personal experiences have been mostly with Saturn sq Venus and that has very often caused delays or flat out blockages whenever in Synastry or Composite.
I also saw one of you had Saturn sq Venus natal.
To have such a limiting square on affection expression isn't easy but I'll let other more knowledgeable people comment on this.
And also we have Venus Square Neptune, one of the hardest ones. But we also have very good ones Like My sun trines her venus, her venus sextiles my saturn, and trines my pluto(a very good one), her saturn sextiles my moon, there's a lot of good aspect, and I know deep inside that we can reconcile, but we need the distance to heal, or that's what I feel.
Although I have dreamt yesterday that after some texting on the past and good times she blocked me from facebook and twitter, and that made me feel that the healing distance is slowly turning into a drifting distance, so maybe I should really try to talk soon before we really start to drift apart.
The good one: We've reconciled, she went to my birthday party, and she spend the night at my place(nothing physical happened, and it wasn't necessary) because there were no buses at midnight. We talked a lot again of goals, dreams, family and life, and it felt pretty amazing the experience of enjoying what made me fell for her, but as I'm writing this now, it's a tight bond, but I'm starting to see that this only can be a deep friendship, and that's alright, even if she said she cared a lot, and she was going to give me portrait of me playing music. It was great though.
The bad one: the real reason of my jealousy and possessiveness was that not so long ago, I've found her and a very close friend of mine watching movies in a very compromising way, and I felt betrayed by him by keeping secrets and lying straight to my face, and these past months they have been together doing things, and I've kept myself away from it, because I felt it wasn't worth it to let the anger lead on me to unecessary things. And the cream of the crop is in the party, they kissed in front of me, and he still lied onto me saying it was the first time. Blatant ******** .
The thing that really ****** me off, is that he's being very dishonest, as he's flirting with a lot of girls, and he told me so, and I feel that he's just stringing her along, or they just are hanging around like most of the people these days, and I'm just a very jealous and ****** off scorpio that feels very decieved.
I've threaten him to kick his ass if he doesn't treat her right or not being honest of what he wants, we were all drunk and that that night.
It was the best birthday party I've had anyway, because I made a jam session with some of my friends, lots of food and beer, and of course, making amends, and seeing the awful truth, even the bad was good.
I'm not really sure of what to do at this point, got what I've wanted, with a price, got to deal with this with a lot of maturity, but let's say this experience kind of push me to my limits, and sometimes I feel I'm gonna explode soon, but with the training I'm making in the gym, and making music kept me grounded. Let's hope I can keep it well with all of this, moving foward with my art
TL R : Make amends with my friend, but she's in love of a "close" friend who's playing with her, and I'm feeling like I'm messing into something very complicated.
I'll keep you posted soon where this goes, cause I'll do something about it, somehow
PD : And I'm giving to you a song that I wrote to her not so long ago, it's a song for my album, Hope you like it.
https://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/moonlight-track-mix-2
quote:Originally posted by LF DX:And I'm giving to you a song that I wrote to her not so long ago, it's a song for my album, Hope you like it.https://soundcloud.com/luisfer-torres/moonlight-track-mix-2
Hey, LF DX. I'm not entirely sure what you're going for here. It feels like a syncopated Doors-inspired tune. Are you performing with a band in a small studio? It may be the mixing quality, or your members are just very, very loose.
It feels like a kind of tribute to classic rock, which I LOVE -- especially, as that's a generation before you. Keep that up! But do me a favour and STUDY the artists: Floyd, Doors, Zeppelin -- you might like the Moody Blues, too. This feels like one who's imitating from the outside. I'd love it if you'd learn the actual feel of it, and then give your own spin.
Your tempo improves 75% into the song. You've got to grab me in the first 5 seconds, or I'm moving on. Again, I can't tell if it's the mix or the members' time -- but it's messy and off-putting.
Your vocals are clearly reminiscent of Morrison, and that's great: the bit of talking, the timbre, overall style. Strong choice.
But I'd love to see this song come together. So, I'm following you. (6degreesofscorpio.)
Feel free to contact me here, or there, regarding its development, if you'd like my assistance. I'm a sound engineer, musician, and I scout talent. Likely, I can help you get closer to where you want to go.
As to the situation you're in ... ahhh, l'amour. It's the sweet pain.
And this was the first year that I'm making songs, tooked me a lot of years, but it feels great to release yourself through music, it's the most pleasant experience I've ever felt, and I'm gonna learn a lot more in the future, cause I want to leave my country and play music, it's hard these days, but I'll work to reach that goal with all my strength
And I know, most of the musicians around here (Paraguay, South America) copy the sound of classic bands instead of giving a personal spin, there are very few who can do it at a more profund level, and let's say it's my generation who's changing slowly the old rotten artistic ways that this country possess, we're pretty far away from the first world, but, only trying and following your muse can bring us to a better level.
And yeah, this is the sweetest pain I've ever been.
quote:Originally posted by Enneline:Aubyanne, could you pls. look at my thread at personal reading. I'd really appreciate your opinion
I'll gladly take a look. In Personal Readings, you said?
quote:Originally posted by LF DX:Well Aubyanne, It's a One man band for this one (I play the bass, guitar, harmonica, and some drums and keyboards), I did it as a way to test some stuff I'm learning at school (studying sound engineering), with only a 5 track and a USB condenser (not a very rich man), and yeah, it's kind of a tribute in a sense, and a naive expression of what it was at the moment(The lovey dovey thing). And this was the first year that I'm making songs, tooked me a lot of years, but it feels great to release yourself through music, it's the most pleasant experience I've ever felt, and I'm gonna learn a lot more in the future, cause I want to leave my country and play music, it's hard these days, but I'll work to reach that goal with all my strengthAnd I know, most of the musicians around here (Paraguay, South America) copy the sound of classic bands instead of giving a personal spin, there are very few who can do it at a more profund level, and let's say it's my generation who's changing slowly the old rotten artistic ways that this country possess, we're pretty far away from the first world, but, only trying and following your muse can bring us to a better level.And yeah, this is the sweetest pain I've ever been.
No worries. I'm sure you'll get there.
quote:Originally posted by Aubyanne: I'll gladly take a look. In Personal Readings, you said?
Si And of course I would be happy to exchange
The final part of this story it's coming, and could be good, as could be not that good.
Since then I kept myself away from her as I could, cutting contact almost completely, except one day when I was rambling around downtown and I found her with her dad, whom I met at her birthday and we became acquaintances very fast, spoke with him like 15 min as they were waiting for their bus to come as me and her barely spoke to each other, but kept a strict politeness to not show the mutual disconfort, I haven't seen her since...
But then earlier this month, she finally made her promise to gave me portraits of me (She's a professional photographer) as a gift for my birthday, but delievered those to a mutual friend, took me two weeks to take the presents as I was very hurt still.
In a letter attached to one picture, She thanked me for my friendship to her and that stuff, since then I tried to contact her to have a final closure but I'm very emotionally blocked to try to do it, I just Can't do it.
And finally this christmas eve she texted me saying she still deeply care for me, missed me and our group, and wanted to start our friendship from scratch, So I gave her a half-hearted response, saying more or less the same...
The truth is, I don't know where to go, cause this experience really burned me out, but the bond and affection are still there, and I never ever really gave someone a second chance, cause I never have this kind of experience before, going to wild extremes, the illusions, deceit, and the on and off thing, and I usually dissapear for good when this kind of things happen, deep inside I want to do this, but to do it will be quite hard. That conversation is important, And I'll try to make it somehow
TL; DR - Tried to get away from her, but she feels regretful of her actions and wants to come back into my life and start things from scratch, but I have a certain distrust to where this could go.
PD: Have decided to show a more complete synastry with some of the asteroids (Don't believe in them much honestly, but maybe they do some powerful stuff, I don't know) Like Dejanira, Eros, Karma, Isis, Osiris and Valentine
I never went this further into astrology with someone, or something in my life, but certain things just wreck your mind.
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